Comments on: Be safe: bring back the Kiss of Peace http://www.sevenwholedays.org/2009/11/24/be-safe-bring-back-the-kiss-of-peace/ "Seven whole days, not one in seven, I will praise thee" -- George Herbert (1633) Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:05:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: MadPriest http://www.sevenwholedays.org/2009/11/24/be-safe-bring-back-the-kiss-of-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-3029 MadPriest Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:07:07 +0000 http://www.sevenwholedays.org/?p=1710#comment-3029 I knew this would happen. It was obvious from the start that making Gene Robinson a bishop would lead to kissing in church and other un-English activities. The next thing you know people will be marrying animals. I knew this would happen. It was obvious from the start that making Gene Robinson a bishop would lead to kissing in church and other un-English activities. The next thing you know people will be marrying animals.

]]> By: Scott Gunn http://www.sevenwholedays.org/2009/11/24/be-safe-bring-back-the-kiss-of-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-3024 Scott Gunn Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:48:58 +0000 http://www.sevenwholedays.org/?p=1710#comment-3024 Fr. Alexander, Ah, yes, I should have thought to check Ritual Notes for a liturgical solution that is elegant, hygienic, correct, and ancient. Since I consult the 11th ed. regularly, I easily forget that the first edition dates from the undivided church, and is hence authoritative and binding. Seriously, I think your method of sharing the peace (minus some of the hierarchical bits) is most excellent and should be commended. SG P.S. I'm just being silly about Ritual Notes. Fr. Alexander,

Ah, yes, I should have thought to check Ritual Notes for a liturgical solution that is elegant, hygienic, correct, and ancient. Since I consult the 11th ed. regularly, I easily forget that the first edition dates from the undivided church, and is hence authoritative and binding.

Seriously, I think your method of sharing the peace (minus some of the hierarchical bits) is most excellent and should be commended.

SG

P.S. I’m just being silly about Ritual Notes.

]]> By: Fr Alexander http://www.sevenwholedays.org/2009/11/24/be-safe-bring-back-the-kiss-of-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-3023 Fr Alexander Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:59:46 +0000 http://www.sevenwholedays.org/?p=1710#comment-3023 Actually, Scott, the correct procedure for the liturgical exchange of the peace is as follows: (a) the person "giving" the peace places the palms of his hands on the shoulders of the person "receiving" the peace (keeping the elbows slightly bent); (b) the person "receiving" the peace brings his palms up to grasp the elbows of the person "giving" the peace -- both persons thus keeping each other literally at arm's length -- and (c) the two sorta nod at each other as if they were going to peck each other on the cheek but never quite get there. It's dignified, it's elegant, *and* it's hygienic. Perhaps it's time to revive this ancient practice for the congregation as well as for clergy and acolytes at the altar. The only problem is that we'd have to figure out a hierarchy of rankings so everyone knows who's supposed to give the peace to whom and who's supposed to receive it from whom ... Actually, Scott, the correct procedure for the liturgical exchange of the peace is as follows: (a) the person “giving” the peace places the palms of his hands on the shoulders of the person “receiving” the peace (keeping the elbows slightly bent); (b) the person “receiving” the peace brings his palms up to grasp the elbows of the person “giving” the peace — both persons thus keeping each other literally at arm’s length — and (c) the two sorta nod at each other as if they were going to peck each other on the cheek but never quite get there. It’s dignified, it’s elegant, *and* it’s hygienic. Perhaps it’s time to revive this ancient practice for the congregation as well as for clergy and acolytes at the altar. The only problem is that we’d have to figure out a hierarchy of rankings so everyone knows who’s supposed to give the peace to whom and who’s supposed to receive it from whom …

]]> By: Bob Chapman http://www.sevenwholedays.org/2009/11/24/be-safe-bring-back-the-kiss-of-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-3022 Bob Chapman Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:40:01 +0000 http://www.sevenwholedays.org/?p=1710#comment-3022 The Pax-Brede http://www.flickr.com/photos/21182585@N00/5015129/ Liturgically correct, and can be cleaned with anti-microbial soap. Combine two actions into one: Have the faithful process forward to kiss the pax-brede. While forward, leave they can leave their offering in a basket and add a portion of bread that will be offered (sacrifice of praise) during the Eucharistic Prayer. You can get a more accurate head count that way for the record book. Cover the action with something from Taizé or Iona. Why do people make these things so hard? The Pax-Brede

http://www.flickr.com/photos/21182585@N00/5015129/

Liturgically correct, and can be cleaned with anti-microbial soap.

Combine two actions into one: Have the faithful process forward to kiss the pax-brede. While forward, leave they can leave their offering in a basket and add a portion of bread that will be offered (sacrifice of praise) during the Eucharistic Prayer. You can get a more accurate head count that way for the record book. Cover the action with something from Taizé or Iona.

Why do people make these things so hard?

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